Heart To Heart

LETTER TO GRACE NO. 2

RonSigler — Sat, 07 Nov 2009 02:11:06 GMT

Grace

The comment I made about us being on the same page was strictly concerning the immediate subject which was predestination as verses free will. As for you and I to see everything the same, thats not going to happen. For one thing words are ambiguous to start with. The primary reason however, is that each of us create our own reality in this dream world from birth up. In this illusion that we have created no two of us has created the exact same illusion. Mass consciousness plays a major roll in our thinking process which is one thing we must overcome, and will.

Mass consciousness is not within me, but outside of me, yet it still has tremendous influence on the way I think. It has no influence on the inner man. The more I grow from all the contrast in the reality we know as earth life, the less influence mass consciousness will have on me. As the outer influence loses its hold on me spontaneously I begin to develop the ears to hear what the true shepherd is saying in reference to any subject. This true shepherd is the Christ as my higher consciousness. All teachers, preachers, religious leaders at best, are Under Shepherds. Depending on how deep the cross has stamped death on the outer man they will be able to hear what the inner life is saying and in turn give it to you.

As I grow from the contrast the deeper insights just seem to speak to me more and more. There comes that point in my life when the numbers of books drop from reading many, to very few, and then perhaps none at all. This is because now my information comes strictly from within. This information, this light, these insights are way deeper then my mind. This means the three dimensional mind has no ground to reason them away. This matter of free will

There is no God who would ever go over my free will without my permission. However the first time that I ask God to lead me, to direct me, to guide me into all truth have I not given him permission to intervene in my life when I want something that I shouldnt have? It is not then, I have given my will over to him? Im remembering something thats in the gospels, where Jesus is recorded to have said, No man can come to me except the Father which sent me draw him. I would also add that all men will be drawn in their own time. Also, when the Divine will calls you, youre going! So where is my free will in light of this one scripture?

As I said a moment ago there comes a time through the Contrast when I am able to hear better what the inner life is saying. There was a time when I threw out the entire bible because there was so much that it taught, that was in opposition to what I was hearing. This was a necessary step for me to take. This was my own personal happening, and Im not at all saying that it will happen to anyone else. It was as though the spirit in me took all confidence in the scriptures and jerked the bible out of my hands.

Today the bible has been given back to me with a very big difference. Since this has transpired, I no longer see it as Gods infallible word. Inspired yes! Infallible no! There is a huge difference between the two. Today, all that I read from the scriptures that defines the God that has been revealed to me, the God who is love, I take that as infallible. All else I either take with a grain of salt, or reject it as a misrepresentation of God. The scriptures all came through men just like you and I. Were they all inspired? Yes! They however wrote truth as they saw it just as we do. When someone shares with me, it will be inspired but hardly infallible.

The church has brainwashed me into believing that every single word of scripture is Gods infallible word to man. This is both true and false. Its false the way the church has taught it. This teaching has created horrendous divisions in the body of Christ. This teaching was for the purpose of controlling the masses. Negative forces created this concept for the purpose of control. Another reason was to keep the Body of Christ divided, for they know that no two people ever take the scriptures the same way. They were never supposed to. When I go to the scriptures what I find in them will be in terms of where the cross has brought me.

We who are many are all on different levels of ascension. God speaks to me according to my level of understanding. The inner life will reveal something to you that is truth for you today, and might possibly give me an opposite view today. Tomorrow we may see it differently. Everything that we know is both true and false depending on our perception, which incidentally keeps changing, and rightly so. When this light comes home to me I then put up my sword and all weapons of war and have lost my ability to go to battle with a brother or a sister over vain doctrinal issues. So my dear sister and friend never be concerned about any disagreement with me or anything I may say. just be free to share your heart of hearts.

We all are coming out of this illusion, out of deception and can only share from the depth that the cross has worked in us. My sharing will be tainted with the three dimensional consciousness to whatever degree the cross that Ive created due to my forgetting has created. The way I see it, I knew before coming here that in doing so amnesia would most certainly result. That was the plan. If there were no forgetting that creates contrast there would be no point in me coming. The forgetting creates the contrast or as some put it the duality in my thinking. In forgetting who I am I have lost none of my power.

However now that Ive forgotten who I am, the result is, I see things as either good or evil in my life. This means I use my power to create by default. This dual vision works good for me as it creates the cross that slowly puts the old Adam to rest and resurrects that last Adam. The concept of the cross has been very much miss- represented by the church, especially in the holiness denominations. The cross is not as Paul said when he wrote taste not, touch not, and handle not. The cross is not abstaining from this or that, as from all appearance of evil the cross that works in my life is here to stay and its something I have absolutely no control over.

What this wonderful cross will do, is bring me into transcendence. This is a place where I begin to enter the rest of the people of God that Hebrews speaks of. Now this is when I begin to sit back, put my feet up, and just enjoy the divine comedy. At times the movie is not to my liking, other times parts of it is wonderful, and as I watch it, there is a far deeper level of my consciousness that witnesses to me that Im going to absolutely love the ending. J

Take care of my friend Pam until we meet again here in cyber space.

All my love to you,

Ron

Letter to Grace...

RonSigler — Fri, 06 Nov 2009 22:28:56 GMT

Hey dear Grace relax. You are not at all creating any waves for me by your questions. The very last thing I want is for anyone to feel as though they need to walk on egg shells in their dealings with me. We are just beginning to fellowship and I have no idea where you are or you me. Please know that I welcome your questions, especially when you disagree with something I may have said. If we are opaque with each other, the opportunity for a spiritual flow will be restricted or lost. Always we need to be transparent in our dealings with one another.

Thank you for refreshing my memory on what I shared concerning predestination and faith and trust. There was, Ill admit a little resistance in my heart when I opened this up to you that was because I do know that the concept of fee will and predestination as being both true can be a challenging one. You have challenged me here, and this is very good for both you and me. When in your honesty, you bite the bullet and question what Ive sent you; it will always be a good thing for me, hopefully for you as well. I believe that you will understand where Im coming from here as you read on.

Your challenges come with love, and so for this reason I feel under obligation to share with you in a way that will enable the Master who resides in you, and who also is your greater identity to bring you and me to the same page. On this particular subject. This is not possible in some cases where the two people disagreeing are actually in two different spiritual orbits, which I dont see applying here with you and me. I expect that there will be many questions that present themselves to you as this correspondence continues

I would strongly encourage you to question me on anything that you do not understand, or that you do not agree with. Doing this will result in me having to search my being for the right words, words that will hopefully answer to your needs. This in turn will often bring me into knowing how to share with you using articulation that Ive not used before, and that in turn will provide me with a greater capacity to share the same truth with others in the future. I think you get my point. Now I must apologize for being so wordy and get down to where the tire meets the road. J

Predestination, free will, faith and trust. Can these seeming opposites be reconciled? The answer is both yes and no depending on my perception. Actually everything does depend on that. In this three dimensional world of opposites, good and evil, right and wrong, things tend to be black or white. In our three dimensional mind fate and faith appear to be opposites as also does predestination and free. Let me see in I can explain these seeming pairs of opposites so that we can accept them both as being true. I am not overly fond of the word fate simply because of what comes to most who hear this word.

I however see fate as a wonderful thing and have, since I began to awaken to my true identity. I realize in terms of ego, I have perhaps a long way to go. Thats ok I see it and that means that every day can be an adventure. What if we were to use this word fate in this way Since I am an eternal child of the all mighty God, the first cause and the awesome creator of all that is, since I am his offspring, since I am a microcosm of the Macrocosm, Gods extension, this means that I will forever throughout eternity have wonderful new horizons to conquer and new worlds to create and to incarnate in them should I desire, for my eternal expansion

This is my fate! I have always been in 100% control of me. No one has ever had control of me unless I, in my ignorance and forgetting allowed them that domain. My Father has created me, and then left me alone to discover or to find myself. Since all that my Father is, I have in essence, all within me. My destiny, my fate, my existence is to forever discover new things. This is my fate. To me, fate, destiny, predestination and free will are all different aspects of that which await me to discover them each time I awaken from this dream of opposites. There are infinite levels of consciousness that await my ascent onto them.

Grace there is far more I would share on this subject if the flow of the river of life would lead that way. Take care and many blessings.

Ron

The List

movingalways — Fri, 06 Nov 2009 18:02:14 GMT

Once upon a time very early last Saturday morning, Eric decided to discover the meaning of life. The night before on public television, he had watched a show about a very old monk who wore a long robe and was supposed to be very smart about these things. Heck, people came from all over the world to kiss him and give him gifts, he was that smart!

Eric had a plan. He would find the very same answer as the long-robed man, but instead of it taking thirty-five years, he would complete the task in one weekend. He'd leave on his journey of discovery at ten this morning and be back before his TV shows came on Sunday night. Perhaps he could get into the "Guinness Book of World Records" as the youngest kid ever to come up with the answer to the meaning of life! The old man in the robe had said that he had taken a long journey, but left no clues as to the nature of this journey. Where had he gone? What did he take with him? Did he speak to other people about their travels? Apparently you had to find these things out for yourself. You couldn't be told. Eric's body tingled with excitement. He couldn't wait to start.

Eric sat down at the wooden desk his father had bought him for his fourth birthday. It was too small for him now; his knees touched the top of the underside, but when his mother had offered to buy him a new desk from the big office store uptown, Eric had refused. Every scratch, every doodle on his wooden desk made him smile when he touched them. No way he was giving up his smiles to a shiny, unused desk!

Eric had brought with him a large piece of paper and his magic green pen. His brother told him his pen was not magic, but he knew better. Something moved inside of him when he wrote with his green pen, like a storm or a song full of colors and warm lava. Eric knew he would be sad the day the green ink ran out.

Eric drew a line down the centre of the page. On the left side of the line he wrote "What to take on my journey" and on the right side he wrote "Where to go on my journey". Having titled his list, Eric clapped his hands. Good, he thought, a beginning.

Five minutes passed, then ten. No storm. No song. No feeling. No words. In his frustration, Eric found himself tapping his magic pen, then rolling his magic pen, and finally, chewing his magic pen. Perhaps, he thought to himself, if I play with my Play Station for a while, I'll come up with some meaning ideas.

Zip, zip, zip around the racetrack he flew. Pop, pop, pop, he killed all the aliens with bumpy skin and gnarled purple fingers in record time. His thumbs moved faster than the speed of light, pumping the buttons frantically as the screen flashed numbers and creatures jumped and leaped from here to there. Four games, then six, then eight; he could have played more, he wanted to play more, but time was pressing on his mind. He had a mission to accomplish!

Back to his desk, back to the list. As he stared at the twelve words on the paper, his right leg started to jiggle, his bum was getting sore and his pen just seemed to pop itself back into his mouth. Perhaps, Eric thought to himself, if I take a bath, I'll come up with some meaning ideas.

As he ran the water, the rainbow bubbles grew and popped madly and Eric carefully dropped his boat collection into the middle of the tub. First the tanker, his favourite; big, grey and dangerous looking. Next, the clipper ship with the many sails, then the three speed boats and finally, the miniature birch bark canoe. When he was satisfied that the boats were placed just so, he climbed into the water, sliding slowly into its warm bubbly depths.

For over an hour, he swam with his boats. The battles they fought, the people they rescued, the storms they endured! Even he was amazed at the adventures they had taken in that short hour. The bubbles gone, the water cold, Eric returned his boats to their special places on the back rim of the tub.

OK, OK, Eric sighed, enough splashing and fighting, back to the list. Ten minutes passed, then fifteen. The paper was slightly soggy from his right arm; apparently he hadn't dried himself too well. Well, if the paper was soggy, it needed time to dry. He'd go and look at his baseball card collection, and by the time he was done, the paper would be dry and the words would come. He couldn't write on wet paper, not even with his magic green pen!

Leaving the almost empty sheet of paper sitting on the edge of his doodly wooden desk, Eric reached under his bed and pulled out his box of baseball cards. He had to keep them under his bed at the very back so his sticky-fingered three year old brother couldn't get his hands on them. They were very valuable, or at least they would be one day when he was a grandfather. He had it all figured out. He would give his baseball card collection to his grandson on his twenty-first birthday. He could sell it and buy a BMW or a Corvette, if they had cars in the future. He smiled as he thought of himself at seventy or eighty, heck, he'd have wrinkles, wear old holey sweaters and maybe even have a bald head.

Eric lovingly handled every one of his cards, from Ken Griffey Jr. (his first), to "Goose" Gossage (his most recent), and when each one had been placed back in his rightful spot, he put the lid back on the shoe box and returned it to his home under the bed.

Eric slipped into his desk chair and stared at his meaning of life list. The paper was dry, the pen was ready. Fifteen minutes passed, then twenty. The words had not grown at all. What was wrong with his green pen? Had it lost its magic? Was his brother right after all?

As the minutes ticked by and the pen remained still, Eric felt himself getting sleepy. Try as he might, he could not keep his lashes from slipping down from the bottom of his brows to the top of his cheeks. When sleep finally came, his head dropped gently on top of his "What to take" and "Where to go" list and his magic green pen slipped out of his hand and dropped to the floor.

A door slammed downstairs and Eric opened his eyes gently. As he picked up his green pen, he struggled to remember why he was sitting at his desk. Did he have homework to do? Was this piece of paper the math questions Mrs. Delaney had assigned for Monday morning?

No, it wasn't math homework, it was his list, his meaning of life list! He was going on his adventure and this was his list so he would know where to go and what to take. He looked at the clock. Sheesh! It was 4:30 in the afternoon, too late to go now! It would be time for supper in a few hours and besides, his best friend Jake usually came calling around this time on a Saturday afternoon to shoot a few baskets.

Grabbing his basketball and a cherry popsicle, Eric ran outside onto the porch to wait for Jake.

~ Pam

pondering time deathbedside

Ronflyer — Thur, 05 Nov 2009 23:50:45 GMT

Time...... spelled backwards is 'emit'..... is 'time' something to be 'absorbed'..... never pursued? Coming to us.... targets of an emission?

Do we stand firm...hold fast to THE ROCK SOLIDITY of CHRIST.... even if we are deemed medieval anachronisms by those who champion the concept of time as a mathematical construct which finds fodder in the eventful past in order to launch into an uncharted, untravelled future?

This continuum of time is more or less unchallenged....but what does this perspective...conventional 'wisdom'.... make of the present....in which all of us are living of our individual lives?

Is it a logical thing to say....if time moves from the past into the future , the present is nothing but a moving point of no dimension...setting out the boundary between the two? Thus the present has no actuality.... it cannot be lived....all is becoming?

These seemingly bizarre selahs occurred for two weeks as my mother was in the final stage days/moments of earthly existence.... as I was cascaded with 6 decades of fond memories of her exquisite unconditional love and servanthood...... and,of course, I was exceedingly grateful for the memory-flood irrigating my heartscape and reminding me of the rich alluvial silt of her CAREess upon this child's life.... not for a moment did I feel any guilt or shame for such selah philosophical ponderings..... maybe the flux of life into death ...one's bedside witness of this final breakdown/breakthrough resurrectional burst...causes us to reflect upon the most startling and appalling things....it is a most tender...vulnerable....yet fruitful...opportunity....a crisis well-met and blessed in ways that surprise/shock us in ways not ever experienced before.....

All is be-coming.... all is a be-leaving..... anyway I digress....if the present existence has no real substance.... then is it easy to succumb to sacrificing one's 'chrysalis' moments to a bloodless, abstract future trying to sell us on some uhopia of a sprung-trap-lessness based on a scientific technological 'houdini-mojo' that will inevitably fail us?

I....and my two brothers..... were stripped of many sophisticated pretenses as we witnessed our mother's passing..... we were in NO virtual environment in which we were spared a transactional view/witness of reality in which we earthen vessels must be tangible bravehearts fighting the good fight of redeeming faith.

Thanks for listening to this medieval loon,eh....love,Ron

Brother and sister, Help me fight...

emmanuelhadi — Thur, 05 Nov 2009 17:27:36 GMT

Dearest Beloves,

I greet you all with humility in Christ Jesus our Head,
Yesterdaay The Lord brought me to a meeting, Just like a cult. Miracle are at this place but they use the name Jesus in vain (Repeat the word 'Jesus Christ' thousands time in one meeting) and their doctrine about spiritism is very strong. The elder they call Momy, can read the spirit of man(Remote viewing of a spirit dwelling in a man).

Today, my church teach and learn about exorcism and spirits. We gathered in my restaurant level 3 (we use services here every sunday) and the teacher told us to learn remote viewing around my restaurant, to seek for evil spirit. There are those with the 'gift' of seeing things(evil) and we began to speak in tounge very loudly and start the exorcism. We do put oil and stuff.
I do not know why The lord make me see these 2 events. But Christ told me that they are having a cloud mind, deceiving themself into mystic and not with a clear mind learning how to love instead of this things in vain.

Questions:
i am the only one who did not believe in devil(Lucifer) and my mom started to say that i am a false teacher and called a pastor to lead me back to a 'straight' path. To counter this, i just use love(greatest weapon ever fashion) for them. But, the problem is, i cannot answer them about devil in Job and many others which prove of their existance. "satan(lucifer) has will,emotion,mind because they talk to God"

What i do know from Daddy:
Our soul has taken the fruit of good and evil <--- this is the cloud mind. I think the evil spirit came out of our emotion and will, the evil(negative) energy comes from our mind which give them power to exist. ----They are what you believe in---

Help me in :
am i correct about evil spirit creation i mention above, my beloves??? secondly, how to explain to them about the book of Job and please give me some advice (other scripture that can be used to attack me and how to counter them)...
I know that there are certain wonderfull articles in this site talking about the devil, i am sory that i have not read them (some i have read but never touch the Job Case)... please help me.
May Father who is full of grace and truth brings us to His fullness.
Amen...Amen...Amen

What Form Do You Claim To Be The Reality of Spirit?

jufa — Wed, 04 Nov 2009 15:44:16 GMT

A DIFFERENT KIND OF FORM

It is the imaginative mind which projects man's human nature as that of a three dimensional corporal power which has the ability to reform that which it had no input into forming. It is also the imaginative human mind which believes life begins at birth even though life existed before the event of conception or birth.

The human mind and the faculty of its imagination are in direct opposition to life being the cause of man's awareness; his outer objectives visions and inner subjective feelings which caused him to believes he is in control of his destiny once he enters the materiality of the body of flesh. If there was no life, there would be no universe,world, man, or the human mind, nor awareness for their existence. This means that man and all the forms he is aware of, or becomes aware of, must first be alive in the invisible, and be issued forth out of the invisible by the Spirit of life in order for any form to become the establishment of being manifested.

Omnipresent Consciousness is everywhere, in every man, woman, and child. The collective and individual corporeal human conscious of man denies this truth, and that the true nature of "the law of the Spirit of life" to be that of the omnipresent Christ. The corporeal human conscious of man denies Christ as the omniscient Spirit of God expressing Himself as the conscious Life of vegetation, animals, insects, and all the known and unknown elements of nature which come together blending and forming the masses of the visible and invisible universe. Of all which the human mind has discovered and accomplished in thought. And of all which the human cults, religions, political structures and philosophies the world over, as well as those men who are supposedly chosen of God, none of these organizations or men have discovered, or accomplished the solving of the Mystery which would define the Creator, or how the forming of matter was achieved.

Consciousness is the omnipresent forms of the infinite thoughts of creation within the Creator. This is why all things have form. Forms are the gifts of God issued forth in His Spirit of Isness which has no laws known to man to oppose. These forms are the gifts of the Spirit. They are love, joy, peace, long suffering, gentleness, goodness, faith, meekness, self-control, and the musical harmony of Life. These gifts are the Spirit of God emanating within the eternal infinity of the Christ Self within the Self of God whose thoughts dwell upon and within the "power of his word" saying "This is my Beloved Son in whom I am well pleased."

This is why all things were created for the pleasure of God. This is why whatsoever men may think they are; whatsoever men may do, or wheresoever their thoughts and imaginations may take them, the presence and activity of the One Self is always there as "the light commanded to shine out of the darkness" for those who will surrender their pride of mind, imagination, and thought interpretations to Christ the first and only Self, and step back into "word of his power" which "has no form or comliness to be desired."

Should any man seek to walk in the light, he must become attuned to "the law of the Spirit of life" which is his life. For it is this man who can see the true forms of Spirit differ from the forms man's human mind and imagination displays. This man can see his own true form, his transcending form, as that which Jesus exhibited on the Mount of Transfiguration, and afterward stepped into after the death of the physical man, and the raising up of His whole, perfect, complete, and pure Spirit body. The resurrected body of ascended Spirit which dissolved all appearance of the flesh and material matter, as the Father gather His Chrst Self back unto "the everlasting arms" of the "eye" of his incomprehensible Self of His Spirit.

Never give power to anything a person believes is their source of strength - jufa

be still and know I am God

BarbMtnWolf — Tue, 03 Nov 2009 20:02:43 GMT

I just *heard* to go look this scripture up to find out what comes before it...to put it into context....WOW....

Psalm 46 (New International Version)

Psalm 46

For the director of music. Of the Sons of Korah. According to Alamoth. A song.

¹ God is our refuge and strength,
an ever-present help in trouble.

² Therefore we will not fear, though the earth give way
and the mountains fall into the heart of the sea,

³ though its waters roar and foam
and the mountains quake with their surging.
Selah

⁴ There is a river whose streams make glad the city of God,
the holy place where the Most High dwells.

⁵ God is within her, she will not fall;
God will help her at break of day.

⁶ Nations are in uproar, kingdoms fall;
he lifts his voice, the earth melts.

⁷ The LORD Almighty is with us;
the God of Jacob is our fortress.
Selah

⁸ Come and see the works of the LORD,
the desolations he has brought on the earth.

⁹ He makes wars cease to the ends of the earth;
he breaks the bow and shatters the spear,
he burns the shields with fire.

¹⁰ "Be still, and know that I am God;
       I will be exalted among the nations,
       I will be exalted in the earth." ¹¹ The LORD Almighty is with us;
       the God of Jacob is our fortress.
       Selah

God can use you

BarbMtnWolf — Tue, 03 Nov 2009 16:48:09 GMT

Prescribed by the Great Physician
*****************************

The next time you feel like GOD can't use you, just remember....

Noah was a drunk
Abraham was too old
Isaac was a daydreamer
Jacob was a liar
Leah was ugly
Joseph was abused
Moses had a stuttering problem
Gideon was afraid
Samson had long hair and was a womanizer
Rahab was a prostitute
Jeremiah and Timothy were too young
David had an affair and was a murderer
Elijah was suicidal
Isaiah preached naked
Jonah ran from God
Naomi was a widow
Job went bankrupt
Peter denied Christ (3 times!)
The Disciples fell asleep while praying
Martha worried about everything
the Samaritan woman was divorced, more than once...
Zaccheus was too small
Paul was too religious
Timothy had an ulcer....
AND
Lazarus was dead!

Now! No more excuses!

God can use you to your full potential.
Besides, you aren't the message, you are just the messenger.

And one more thing...

Share this with a friend or two...

In the Circle of God's love, God is waiting to use your full potential.

1. God wants spiritual fruits, not religious nuts.

2. "Dear God : I have a problem. It's me.

" My Dear Child: I have the solution.. It's Me! !"
3. Growing old is inevitable ... growing UP is optional.

4. There is no key to happiness. The door is always open.

5. Silence is often misinterpreted but never misquoted.

6. Do the math .. count your blessings.

7. Faith is the ability to not panic.

8. Laugh every day. It's like inner jogging.

9. If you worry, you didn't pray. If you pray, don't worry.

10. As a child of God , prayer is kind of like calling home every
day.

11. Blessed are the flexible for they shall not be bent out of
shape..

12. The most important things in your house are the people! ...

13. When we get tangled up in our problems, be still. God wants us
to be still so He can untangle the knot.

14. A grudge is a heavy thing to carry.

15 He who dies with the most toys is still dead.

Have a great day!!! The SON is shining and He can certainly use
you!

Please share, I just did.

Zion and the New Jerusalem

BarbMtnWolf — Tue, 03 Nov 2009 16:09:07 GMT

This morning something came up that re~minded me of some inspiration Father was giving me, both last night and also this past summer, about the New Jerusalem. I just couldn't re~member! I couldn't even re~member Zion, I knew it was a short word that is associated with New Jerursalem, but I could not for the life of me *think* what I was supposed to recall. So I googled, that usually helps me. And so it did!

This is what I found....and I have read a book called The Immortal by author J. J. Dewey, which is all about the apostle John...who Jesus asked to tarry until he returns....and I suspect John is amidst us here....but he will never say it....hehe

http://www.freeread.com/archives/new_jerusalem_quotes.php

So alright it was Zion I was having on the tip of my tongue! It's the high point of the city of Jerusalem, it's the mountain. In spiritual parlance...it's the throne of the Son of God....the highest you can get to God....in merging matter with spirit...in receiving new life...making the twain into one...as it was "in the beginning"...well three actually but that's another discourse entirely.

So Zion, yes, that's it! The mountaintop...of the new city which "descends" (spirit into flesh, first the natural, then the spiritual...progression!) from heaven.....and those city streets aren't paved with gold....they are lit without any aid from heavenly bodies of light...lit from WITHIN!!! That's where God's Kingdom is, of course, within us! So New Jerusalem needs no outer source of Light like a Sun, Moon or Planets (bodies celestial reflecting light mundane)...it's all within....and glowing brightly too!!!! Jesus came to set "the world" (the worldly/earthen) afire!!!!!!!!!! Spark us up, baby!!!! Father of Spirit...Mother of Nature....he came into the world like any other child....but he re~membered...His Source of Light...within! He said of his own 'self' he could do nothing, it's God in all, doing it all! That's the Light we can *count on*.

I skip around a little...sometimes a lot...in my humanity that just happens as it's *hit or miss* and never straight on/steady on course. I hit shoals from time to time, when I'm not paying attention to the LightHouse within, ever guiding, but am I always heeding? Hah! I wish!

Jerusalem our Mother Above is always free! Nobody has to pay a price to get in this glorious temple...all you have to do is be *willing* to LOVE!!! Align with Love & Light (God, within us, Spirit, within us) and voila, the marriage is complete, and you're on the throne....shared with us by none other than Jesus Christ....the FirstBorn Son...of Many! God doesn't want blood sacrifices to purify you....all God really wants....is our love (freely given...not forced!!!)...love God and love one another. Good Heavens, stop arguing with your brother and trying to defend yourself, give 'em what they want, and give 'em your inner garments too if they try to take your outer. What good are material possessions anyway, you can't take them with you. It does no good if you want to inherit the Kingdom and you have a "cause" against your brother, or he against you, go settle up! Leave your axes by the door. hehe Turn your swords into ploughshares, turn over that old earth, make way for the new seeds coming up!!!!!!

By the way there are flocks not of these Christian folds that Christ (remember what His name means? ANOINTED ...anointed with God's Holy Spirit love...filled to overflowing!!!) that he also tends to. So to those who object to other paths to God, or God's salvation being bestowed on some "other type" other than your accepted religion/beliefs, well you're going to have to make peace with them, too, because that's the Prince of Peace you're going to be sharing a throne with, and he rejects NO ONE. (because he cannot reject Himself, His Body!!!!)

It was this little bit that made me sit up and take notice, because Father~Christ showed me this last night....all the inhabitants of *New Jerusalem*....will glow in the dark with their inner Light (of God, of Christ, the Light in EVERY MAN!!!)....since this *city* needs no outer celestial body source of light....because all the LIGHT...is within!!!!!!

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When the New Jerusalem is perfected in an atom the light of God is then released and the element will then have a light of its own, and glow in the dark.

Remember the children's song from Sunday School days? Oh this little light o' mine, I'm gonna let it shine!!!!!

Shine on little lights! Our Father~Mother Goose God would never choose to abandon or reject their baby gosling godlings!!!!!! But the little godlings in their immaturity can and often do struggle with one another in believing there's not enough love/milk/meat to go around....God has plenty of breasts for all to suck on and receive nourishment.

OH another interesting *connection* with this site, with mountains and hills (Zion the mount on which Jerusalem resides/presides!) which I found while looking for a scripture about God and breasts...

In Gen 49:22ff. where dying Jacob blesses Joseph using a string of divine names and epithets:

... by the hands of the Mighty One of Jacob,
by the name of the Shepherd,

the Rock of Israel,
²⁵ by the God of your father, who will help you,
by the Almighty? (shadday) who will bless you
with blessings of heaven above,

blessings of the deep that lies beneath,

blessings of the breasts and of the womb.
²⁶ The blessings of your father
are stronger than the blessings of the eternal mountains,

the bounties? of the everlasting hills;

may they be on the head of Joseph,

on the brow of him who was set apart from his brothers.

"BETTER LATE THEN NEVER"

RonSigler — Tue, 03 Nov 2009 01:03:21 GMT

I was told that you were having a birthday but dimwitted me forgot. Barb you simply must forgive me...
Jesus said you you had to.
Happy birthday.
P.S. I have loved every post you've done. you're moderating is great. Keep up the great work. I love you,
Ron S

What can Separate Man from the Love of God

goodnewsinc — Tue, 03 Nov 2009 00:33:26 GMT

What can separate humans from the love of the Father?

Matthew 23:9. And call no man your father upon the earth: for one is your Father, which is in heaven.

Isaiah 45:9. Woe unto him that striveth with his Maker! Let the potsherd strive with the potsherds of the earth. Shall the clay say to him that fashioneth it, What makest thou? or thy work, He hath no hands? 10. Woe unto him that saith unto his father, What begettest thou? or to the woman, What hast thou brought forth? 11. Thus saith the Lord, the Holy One of Israel, and his Maker, Ask me of things to come concerning my sons, and concerning the work of my hands command ye me. 12. I have made the earth, and created man upon it: I, even my hands, have stretched out the heavens, and all their host have I commanded.

Isaiah 46:3. Hearken unto me, O house of Jacob, and all the remnant of the house of Israel,

(1) which are borne by me from the belly, which are carried from the womb:

4. And even to your old age I am he; and even to hoar hairs will I carry you:

(2) I have made, and

(3) I will bear; even

(4) I will carry,

(5) and will deliver you.

Can sin separate men from the love of our Creator-Father?

Can demonic possession cause God to lose love for His sons and daughters?

Can worship of false Gods do it?

Can demon worship do it?

Can belief in a non-Christian religion do it?

Can atheism and agnosticism separate men from Gods love?

What about involvement with abortions?

Can mass murderers be separated from Gods love?

Can being a drug addict cause God to turn on His victimized children?

Can not knowing God make Him disregard those children?

Can your church affiliation make God turn against His offspring?

What about the salvation doctrines men teach in the churches?

What if men do not believe God? Answer: Romans 3:3.

Now the Holy Spirit concurs with the Father through Paul.

Romans 8:37. Nay, in all these things we are more than conquerors through him that loved us. 38. For I am persuaded, that neither death, nor life, nor angels, nor principalities, nor powers, nor things present, nor things to come, 39. Nor height, nor depth, nor any other creature, shall be able to separate us from the love of God, which is in Christ Jesus our Lord.

Gods chosen Savior agrees with The Father and the Holy Spirit.

John 1:29. The next day John seeth Jesus coming unto him, and saith, Behold the Lamb of God, which taketh away the sin of the world.

John 12:32. And I, if I be lifted up from the earth, will draw all men unto me.

John 10:28. And I give unto them eternal life; and they shall never perish, neither shall any man pluck them out of my hand. 29. My Father, which gave them me, is greater than all; and no man is able to pluck them out of my Father's hand. 30. I and my Father are one. 31. Then the Jews took up stones again to stone him.

1 John 5:7. For there are three that bear record in heaven, the Father, the Word, and the Holy Ghost: and these three are one.

Conclusion

Nothing can separate us from the love of the Creator-Father exemplified in Christ Jesus!

Can you say, Amen?!

John,

GOOD NEWS, Inc.

happy birthday Sandy!

BarbMtnWolf — Mon, 02 Nov 2009 19:17:10 GMT

Happy birthday Sandy! I hope you have a most wonderful day and many, many more "happy returns"!!! Enjoy your special day!!!

Your posts have very often challenged me to revisit and rethink my *beliefs* once tightly held, and to just remain more open-minded, and open-hearted! You have encouraged me to see more, to widen my lens angles to more varied perspectives...and I so respect and appreciate your persistence and your faith in loving God, Christ and all....and I admire your finding unity with your brothers and sisters *in Christ*...even with our sometimes big differences. So well you model the Christ Spirit exceptionally well, dear Sandy! I'm very glad for you coming into this realm to share the path He laid out before us, too!!!!!

I hope your birthday is full of blessings!

Love,
Barb

p.s. I found out today was your birthday by looking at the bottom of the page, I never saw that "today's birthday" feature before!!! So Barbara's not the only birthday girl here today! What a timely little re~minder that message below was!!!! Father works in Mysterious Ways...ever with us....nudging us!!!

happy birthday Barbara Symons!!!!

BarbMtnWolf — Mon, 02 Nov 2009 15:31:58 GMT

Happy birthday Barbara!!!!! I hope you have lots of joyful moments today celebrating your birthday! And (a little selfishly, I admit) I hope you have MANY happy returns!!!!!!

This humble Earth abode of ours became brighter the day your soul~spirit arrived taking shape in your form as Barbara Symons, and it's been alighting up the world even more ever since!!!! Thanks so much Barbara for being here, for being who you are, for all you do for Heart to Heart, and for all the light and love you spread in this world!

Have a great day!!!

Love,
the other Barb

The Everlasting Gospel

goodnewsinc — Mon, 02 Nov 2009 04:57:13 GMT

The Everlasting Gospel

What is it? It is GOOD NEWS that mankind are offspring of the Father. In fact they are cells of his living body shaped with a head, torso, arms and legs. They cannot perish because IMMORTALTY of the spirit is a DNA heritage from the Father. As such the living spirits of men are EVERLASTING. The everlasting gospel is that message EXACTLY! The doctrines of men in the churches that mankind will burn in hellfire with devils are LIES. Only the sons and daughters of devils, namely their demonic images, will burn and cease to exist with Lucifer and Babylon! As the Father is so are His children. Our spirits have ETERNAL LIFE from conception. And the spirit is the real YOU stuck in a clay envelope. Some men have the attitude of Esau and despise their birthright!

The GOOD NEWS that men cannot perish with devils but they have inherent eternal life as spirits is on the Internet right now and is available to the whole world via cyberspace!

Revelation 14:6. And I saw another angel fly in the midst of heaven, having the everlasting gospel to preach unto them that dwell on the earth, and to every nation, and kindred, and tongue, and people, 7. Saying with a loud voice, Fear God, and give glory to him; for the hour of his judgment is come: and worship him that made heaven, and earth, and the sea, and the fountains of waters. 8. And there followed another angel, saying, Babylon is fallen, is fallen, that great city, because she made all nations drink of the wine of the wrath of her fornication.

Isaiah 40:1. Comfort ye, comfort ye my people, saith your God. 2. Speak ye comfortably to Jerusalem, and cry unto her, that her warfare is accomplished, that her iniquity is pardoned (Lamb FIXED this on a cross about 2000 years ago, John 1:29) : for she hath received of the Lord's hand double for all her sins.

1 Timothy 4:9. This is a faithful saying and worthy of all acceptation. 10. For therefore we both labour and suffer reproach, because we trust in the living God, who is the Saviour of all men, specially of those that believe. 11. These things command and teach.

Matthew 24:14. And this gospel of the kingdom shall be preached in all the world for a witness unto all nations; and then shall the end come.

Do you have a spiritual clock? What time is it?

John,

GOOD NEWS, Inc.

LETTER TO A HURTING MOM...

RonSigler — Sun, 01 Nov 2009 20:32:50 GMT

LETTER TO A HURTING MOM

I have your e-mail before me entitled CAN THE RUBBER MEET THE ROAD

Heres my understanding of why I believe that reincarnation is necessary to include the physical man. Please understand that these are my opinions based on what to me is the knowledge of that which created me. This is not to say that the way I see things is the absolute truth. It is just the way I see things at this stage of my own journey.

I am always honored when someone reaches out the hand of fellowship to me as you have done, and at the same time I feel its my obligation to make plain the fact that when I share anything, its with the attitude that its how I see things while looking through the dark glass of a mind that I feel still has a lot of renewing to go. The scriptures tell me that salvation is in terms of the renewing of the mind. This means that the goal I press on to reach which is to come fully awake within this dream which is synonymous with the ascension totally hinges on the light replacing my three dimensional mind with the mind of the Christ.

So whatever I may say at anytime now or hereafter I would encourage you to take only what resonates with you and feel free to discard the rest. With that said, Ill continue with your e-mail. By the way, to fully awaken within this dream is as good as it gets for as long as we remain in this physical body.

Thank you Ron, for sending the page about reincarnation. It certainly helps me to better see how one "might" conclude that the Bible speaks of it.

Often, thoughto me it seems that these passages are speaking of pre-existence as spiritand not necessarily of in-carnating (taking on a body)

Here is my understanding on your comments above. There is one Spirit and this Spirit is The Creator of all that is. There are many souls. If I speak as a man, then its true when I say that I have a soul during this incarnation, or any other. When my physical body dies, I then return back into two elements. These two elements are one in essence. In the interval between incarnations, I am a soul without a body. As soul, I am consciousness. My becoming physical in this space-time reality provides me with many experiences that I could not gain any other way.

These experiences result in my expansion, and the expansion of All That Is. This physical world is the leading edge of an expanding universe. You and I are on this leading edge when we are here in a physical body. Spirits nature which is Love never changes. Outside of that fact Spirit is evolving as we are. This would have to be true because God and man are one. If anyone would tell me that God and man are not one, then my question to them would be, Then if God and man are not one, then please tell me where did man originate?

Scripture also tells me that all came forth out of the Creator. I cannot conceive of anything being something other then a form of God regardless if its a man, a rock. A raindrop etc, in essence all of creation is Spirit appearing as many forms at many levels of consciousness or vibration. Someone once said that All matter is spirit slowed down to visability. I once was searching the television hoping to find a decent movie and in the process of skipping through channels I just happen to stop on one where a woman was riding in a car with a man and she asked the question do you believe in God? I waited to hear his answer. His answer shocked me for he said; I believe that God was an event that happened a very long time ago.

The woman then said, You mean like the big bang? his answer was sort of, and were whats left. This was a shock to me for I had believed this for years but never heard it put quite that way. I see it like this The Absolute, that light which no man can approach unto, exploded due to a desire to experience what it was not among other things. The lowering of its vibrations eventually created the cosmic explosion that sent trillions of fragments hurling into what became creation. I am one of those fragments. So are you. The one Spirit that we all have is the Creator. Spirit then is our source. As flesh we all have this one and the selfsame Spirit deep within us, as the Truth, we are this Spirit.

When I began to understand this, I then could appreciate Pauls exhorting the early Christians to keep the unity of the spirit in the uniting bond of peace. He also wrote to the Ephesians telling them

There is one body, and one Spirit, even as ye are called in one hope of your calling

Reincarnation involves all three parts of man. As each soul evolves through uniting with flesh God would also be involved for man as a soul is an extension of his Creator and the Creator as soul, must take on flesh as a further extension to experience all the experiences that result in the expansion of not only man but All That Is because we all are connected. So the one Spirit in lowering its vibration resulted in the creation of souls. My reason for being here is the Creators reason, for in absolute reality we are one.

As the many Souls the Creator lowered its vibration still more and with the result being that man began to appear upon the earth. Jesus as man was an advanced soul that came awake in this dream that mass consciousness has created. This is why at only 12 years of age he was already referring to God as his father. Later on in Hebrews we find that the Christ that brought him from flesh to resurrection and ascension tells us that he is the caption of our salvation and our elder brother. . So there is one Spirit, which is our root and our true identity. Every soul is this Spirit, this Creator with its vibration lowered.

As Spirit we are all the One. As souls we began this long journey a very long time ago measured by earths time. As such we are all different, and no two souls are alike. Thus we afford the Father different experiences that cannot be numbered. This enriches the Father. This means that all the knowledge the Father has gained from all this experience of all the souls since the beginning of creation each of us ass an individual soul have access to. We all are the extension of the Father because our source, our root, is the Father the Absolute. I share all this as a man, for the higher consciousness that I am is the Father. This is true for all of us.

To the degree that I develop the single eye that sees only One entity existing, to that same degree I transcend the three dimensional mentality and ascend in consciousness. this is a long process in time-space reality and it happens by small degrees.

My youngest unmarried son said on the phone (before drawing back) that I have become so "weird", that all he knows to do is "wave at me, while I fly by ".

I understand how the pulling away at any degree concerning family hurts. And yes that is ego as you say, but thats normal, and theres not a thing wrong with your feelings. Isaiah tells us in speaking of the coming Messiah that he is a man of sorrows who mingles his tears with his bread. So since the captain of my salvation had his down times, and failures then might I assume that my failure to grow wings, a halo and walk on water and even committing the sin of being human now and then just might be forgiven? My point is, youre human and youre a mother, and any mother who loves her children would have the same problems should they experience what you speak of. If wings and a halo is the result of me smiling joyfully while my children pull away from me, then God can keep them, for I dont want them.

As for ego, thats what I am while in this body. There is absolutely no condemnation to you or me whatsoever. So be thankful that God has given you that love for your offspring that hurts when they through their miss understanding pull away. Just know that ultimately all pain is gain contrary to many who believe otherwise. All things work together for good to them that love God, and who are the called according to his purpose. All will be called when they are ready, and no one will be left out. We are the offspring of the almighty God and this means we are winners no matter what. As you say, your children may feel they are losing you to something they do not understand. This is what it sounds as though it could be to me.

I would commit them to the Creator that lives within them and in faith and expectation sit back and wait and watch for the results. When you least expect it you may see a change occurring in their attitude towards you. No pushing or manipulation on your part will reveal great faith, and that my dear sister will be sufficient. You have my prayers. Thats a promise! Thank you so very much for your willingness to take me into your confidence. You have been a wonderful blessing to me, more then you know.

Please never hesitate to write me whenever you desire to do so. I will always make the time to reply. There is much love here for you.

Ron