Not just a John Company, but a company of "I and my Father are one" Come up hither.

Libertymin, thanks again for your post. Though I do understand that the cross was a dark and dreary place; and we don't want to hang out in dark and dreary places. However, I don't think you got my point. I stated that the cross was a "DOORWAY to enthronement." Or, basically a revelation that as we identify in the mortification of the desires of the flesh (our cross), simultaneously we manifest the glory of the "Come up Hither" realm. It's exchanged life. I am crucified with Christ, nevertheless I live, yet not I but Christ lives in me. Yes, there are those who have never moved beyond the cross into resurrection glory and enthronement; and this is regretable. However, to say that God the Father speaks contrary to his word is fruitless and frankly dangerous. II Cor. 4:10; Always bearing about in the body the dying of the Lord Jesus; that the life also of Jesus may be made manifest in your mortal body. This clinging to the cross which you speak so negatively about is actually the answer; because again I repeat, it is as we abide in the consciousness of the cross that simultaneously we are enthroned and reign as kings of love and mercy.

Hidden manna I got your point. What I said is "LET THE CROSS DO IT'S JOB" then be who you are after the cross experience in any given situation and subject.

Summerland, Boy O boy, I seem to have really stirred something up with my very benign and simple beginning post. We have gotten off the beaten track quite a bit; and I initially thought it might be beneficial and edifying to converse, but am unsure now. Though I am somewhat new to this site; yet I am not new to the things of God. You and I could probably go back and forth forever on this subject, but I see clearly by your last post that you are set in your ways. It seems to me that we have a fundamental difference in our understanding of what is truth. If the Koran, Talmud, Vedas, or whatever leads to the same place as the Christ of the Bible, then I'm in big trouble. If Jesus Christ is not the only way back to the Father then he must be a liar. There have been many martyrs down through the ages that have shed their blood.; but what makes Jesus' blood unique and vital is that it was and is the blood of God. If Jesus was not born of a virgin then I just as soon throw the Bible out; because it's only his untainted blood that contains eternal life. Not Mohammad, Buddha, me, you or anybody else. I don't believe we are all on the same path. Jesus even told some people, that they were of their father the devil. Many people only take so-called truth that is comfortable to them. I don't always like the way Biblical truth hits me; because it is a two-edged sword; and many times it cuts me to the core. Nonetheless, I must yield to it, not it yield to me. That's the way I see it.

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Oh Brother!!!!

Perhaps it is this way:   Like Paul,

some are called to suffer

so that they might also reign.

Paul didn't do the choosing, God

chose it for him. He did a lot

of things for the sake of the body.

And was usually judged negatively

for it.  Nevertheeless, like Jeremiah,

God knew him from the womb.

There will be no reign w/o first

the suffering.

Maybe the Lord has a different

stroke for different folks.......ha...

but one thing about it:  There are

two cheribums that "HE" placed

on either side of Himself

in the midst

and there is NO GOING Back In

unless one "goes THE WAY."

One of them "cheribums" is surely

to stop one.

For he that climbeth up "some other

way" is a thief and a robber.

All who come "before ME" are

thieves and robbers.

So glad He died for theives and

robbers.

Let every man abide in the

caling wherein he is called.

I can't move them anyway. ha

Hi Ron,

Thank you for your kind words. Please accept my sincere condolences to you and your family, in this time of your mother's passing. "Hidden manna" is that eternal substance beyond the veil in the ark of God's heart. It is the partaking of the at-one-ment on the other side of the looking glass where we are united with him, who is the cohesive living glue of all things. It is that place of understanding, that in our union we become his express image to the universe. It is that place of transcendence of space and time. It is that place of the mountain of God, beautiful for situation; shining forth as the noon day, with healing rays. It is the place of the pure white stone where-in is written a new name, a new word, a new song, a new language, a new and beautiful poetry. It is that place of the third heaven where there are things beyond speech; unutterable. It is that place where the limitations and walled boundaries of words, give way to the light of life.

The voice of living waters is heard in the cool of the day, as we partake and become the living bread. Hidden manna is the true and holy communion; as we share the living revelation one with another.  This comm-union of the mystery revealed is as the two covering cherubim of witness in our hearts; providing a mercy seat ark for God to be enthroned in our midst. It is as we eat that we become; and it is as we break the living bread together that the "all encompassing" revelation of Christ is manifest. Hidden manna is deep beyond the outer court of what most 'barely awakened ones' have tasted; it is deep beyond the holy place of the high minded; it is deep beyond the veil of the most holy place; it is deep within the hidden ark of the mercy throne, and it is deep within the hidden golden pot. Yes, HIDDEN MANNA IS DEEP WITHIN! Yet, it is in our comm-union of this living bread, that brings forth an ignition of explosive emanating light; the daystar begins to dawn in our hearts and we become the all encompassing light of the world.

Hidden manna is the personage of the mystery of Christ; unsearchable and past finding out. Yet, we search, and keep on searching. Though, we may come to that place of understanding all things; yet the paradox of it all is that we still see through a glass darkly. I certainly don't pretend to know it all; but one day I shall know, even as I am known of him. Anyway, I appreciate the opportunity to ramble.

Have a God day!

HM